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0000470DayZ Standalone[All Projects] Game settingspublic2013-12-17 13:052014-02-08 13:57
ReporterZhoukov 
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PrioritynoneSeveritynoneReproducibilityalways
StatusclosedResolutionno bug 
PlatformPCOSWindows 7OS Version64 bit
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
243 vote(s) 35,79%
436 vote(s) 64,21%
Summary0000470: Third person gives unfair advantage / decreases experience of the game
DescriptionI believe that Third Person view will take away the reallife aspect of the game. Looking around corners or have a greater field of view will give you an unreal advantage. First Person gives a more reallife experience

I believe i'm not the only one who thinks this way. Maybe enable the Hardcore servers again (where third person is turned off) will resolve this issue for most of these players

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Yeey first person only servers are upon us. Let's enjoy them. Stop the hate on eachother and start the love for the game.
Additional InformationI'm aware of the fact that this isn't a bug. But keep in mind, this forum is for ALL sorts of feedback.
TagsCamera
Game Version1.0
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Nightingale (reporter)
2013-12-18 10:04

I agree with this sentiment, but I think the solution is to make the hardest difficulty mode (in our case, Veteran) force first person only.

You can't expect the casual crowd or even some of the realism crowd to accept the difficulty of first person only.
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Andyb11 (reporter)
2013-12-18 10:08

do not agree. nope, nope. At the end of the day, it doesn't break immersion. Its fair because everyone can do it as well.
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Zhoukov (ticket author)
2013-12-18 11:40

I think it should be first person only. I agree with Andy that everyone can do it. But you have to agree it takes some of the experience away. You can always sneakpeek corners and stuff without have to walk around it and stuff..

But also agree with Nightinggale, can't force ppl to play first person. So thats why there should be First Person Only servers. just like Day Only servers ;)
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Foxhunt (reporter)
2013-12-18 21:38

I can agree with First Person Only servers, and the server browser showing whether it is Third Person, First Person or both, but I absolutely do not agree with removing Third Person altogether and making it first person only.
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Rabbit (reporter)
2013-12-18 21:42
edited on: 2013-12-18 21:44

This is a problem Dean Hall has multiple times addressed, his statements usually go like:

I realize third person gives an unfair advantage to looking around corners, but the disadvantage to having first person is the really low awareness around you. We hope to address this eventually and make it easier to be more aware without having to use third person to give a more REALISTIC amount of awareness as you would in real life.

This isn't a bug report, don't report it.
That is why forums exist. This bug reporting part of the internet is so developers can see problems with the actual playing of the game not changes people would like to see.

Ever stop and think "Hey why is this reproducibility field here?"

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xinthian (reporter)
2013-12-19 00:31

There is a reason that there is third person.

A normal angle of view looking forward without moving (angle = how far you can see left or right without moving your head) is wider then you can set it in the game.

To get this wide of a view that a normal person would have they implemented the third person view. So this has some thought into it, and even though you can see over walls etc. it would still be more realistic then having only tunnel vision.

I do not get though, why you post this here. You can suggest things like this on the forums. You just made a bug report about something which is not a bug.

I think devs can close this tbh
(0002734)
im_orange (reporter)
2013-12-19 00:39

@xinthian that's excactly what the ALT button is for. To look around.

Also, it's not like the 3rd person mode makes your viewing angle wider. It just puts your "camera" 2 meter behind your head, it still has the same FOV that you set in the options.
(0002737)
Toasted Duckie (reporter)
2013-12-19 00:40

Please remove this, as it is not a bug. The value of this system is to identify and categorize bugs.
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DeadlyDanDaMan (reporter)
2013-12-19 06:22

This has nothing to do with in-game bugs. Please remove. Downvoted.
(0002970)
harkonian (reporter)
2013-12-19 06:59

DeadlyDanDaMan: Please read the URL of this website. Note the first word: feedback.
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Kepper (reporter)
2013-12-19 07:08

Well, didnt Rocket mentioned somthing like that he is aware of the 3rd person camera and he wanted to change the kind of perspective that the camera is more "stick" to the player, therefore you dindt get this kind of advantage.
So probably this kind of fix will happend sooner or later but at the time there is more "important" stuff to do than this ;)
(0003014)
Zhoukov (ticket author)
2013-12-19 09:03

I quote 'DeadlyDanDaMan' : "DeadlyDanDaMan: Please read the URL of this website. Note the first word: feedback." It doesn't have to be a bug.

I also can agree with 'i'm orange' since he states that Third Person gives you a FAR wider view than First person. I never stated they should remove Third person, but give ppl the oppertunity to play First Person only.

I think First Person gives a better experience, since you have to look around more and stuff. And you can't look 'over' fences while standing next to them. That actually makes no sense if you ask me.
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Musk (reporter)
2013-12-19 09:12

I completely agree on this topic.

Having access to third person view is absurd. Being able to look over high walls and around corners. This will allow bandits in (not just) the major cities lying on rooftops or in apartment building,the ability to overlook the entire city without putting them self at risk of being shot. That being said the only solution to this, will be to simply force first person on some server and allow third person on others. Even though we all know official hive first person servers will dwindle with time and almost disappear, like it happened in the mod and end out in cod kids using third person on unofficial server spawning in with as50s and ghillie suits and five different kind of choppers.

Even though the standalone has a FOV, Head bob and a radial blur slider people will still complain about "headaches", "tunnel vision", "motion sickness" and continue to want third person, because they don't want to risk losing their equipment, to other third person players who is equally afraid of losing their equipment, resulting in massive fire fights.

I love this game so fucking much, but I don't want to see it turn into the shitfest of a deathmatch simulator that was the DayZ Mod.
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Guyver1 (reporter)
2013-12-19 09:14

"There is a reason that there is third person.

A normal angle of view looking forward without moving (angle = how far you can see left or right without moving your head) is wider then you can set it in the game. "

BS false equivalence.
Why is it this poor argument only ever exists in games with both 1st/3rd yet you NEVER hear about it in games that are only 1st, CS, UT, Quake, TF2 etc etc etc etc from the past 15 years!!

Freelook is in this game for a reason! There is NO excuse for not using freelook to actually 'look around' and see your entire surroundings.
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kalips (reporter)
2013-12-19 09:23

Not a bug.
(0003030)
Musk (reporter)
2013-12-19 09:28

Kalips, this website is for feedback.
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OzyALPHA (reporter)
2013-12-19 09:41

I like playing in 3rd person. Having harcore modes/servers that are only 1st person is a good idea though
(0003037)
Sheo (reporter)
2013-12-19 09:42

Other FPS force people to play first person, so we could do the same in DayZ. At least, give us some First Person Only server.
(0003038)
b00st_er (reporter)
2013-12-19 09:44

Can i report this type of feedback as bugs?


This is not a bug. Go post on reddit so i can downvote you there as well.
(0003040)
Musk (reporter)
2013-12-19 09:48

For fuck sake b00st, and everyone else who is going to come in here and say this is not a bug. The URL itself is "feedback.dayzgame.com". This clearly belongs under feedback AND on the forums.
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TheUltraViolence (reporter)
2013-12-19 10:25

I'd love to see no third person. The only thing I'd have to see more, is a game version that doesn't beg for the ease of third person for movement.

moving in first-person can be downright painful sometimes.

third person also destroys the realism of the game, completely destroys it.
(0003098)
Zhoukov (ticket author)
2013-12-19 11:14

It's nice to read that more ppl agree with me on this topic. Also for all the ppl who cry 'no bug herpderp..' Feedback doesn't mean you should post bugs here, please just don't post at all if you have nothing usefull to say.

I also can agree with 'TheUltraViolence', sometimes first person can be painful, but maybe that's because we are getting used to Third Person view. If you search a house or something, most of you problably use first person than. So its not completely FULL third person.

I hope this will get enough attention and that we will see first person only servers soon enough :D
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AGBenny12 (reporter)
2013-12-19 11:39

They need to split the servers into 1st person and 3rd person, only solution. But yes I agree 1st person adds so much immersion to the game rather than 3rd person is nothing but immersion breaking.
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xinthian (reporter)
2013-12-19 11:42

Euhm, everyone who says this is for feedback.

you are right. feedback for bugs, not suggestions on what you think should be implemented in the game. your opinion is not a bug.

Not even gonna explain the FoV scaling here.
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animation303 (reporter)
2013-12-20 04:24

This is already a server option (in the mod anyway), once again, if you dont like 3rd person, dont play on a server that allows it, do not ruin the game for anyone else because you dont like it.
(0003987)
Spencer (reporter)
2013-12-20 07:24

Personally I love to see my character in third person and only switch to first when I'm using a weapon or looking for items.

However, it should be a filter option for servers as I believe the majority of the community likes this part of the game.
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VerocityViper (reporter)
2013-12-20 19:12

To me 3rd person seems very much a part of DayZ, and I like being able to see my character at times.. but in saying that I wouldn't mind it being taken away an it'd be interesting to see how 1st person only would play out.

I can defiantly see drawbacks on 1st person also, but I can see where your coming from where people can abuse it.
(0005464)
Rusk (reporter)
2013-12-22 09:20
edited on: 2013-12-22 09:21

We will never agree on a solution that works for both sides so I would suggest to make it an option you can filter for in the server browser. Basically what we have with the mod where both 1P and 3P exist side by side. And honestly if pressed to decide between the two I honestly couldn't because I like both variants as long as the playing field is level.

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Molkerei (reporter)
2013-12-22 09:29

This is the same issue as pitch black night... yes people can see around corners but if you are looking for realism there are plenty of ways to see around a corner easily or beyond a wall. You find a hole or carefully look around the corner or even use something reflective not an option in a game. Same thing if you look at pure darkness night yes very dark is more real but you don't have a sense of touch. The fact is we are playing a game you have very minimal senses while playing small advantages are needed to help.
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McGuyver (reporter)
2013-12-22 10:28

This isn't a bug, don't report it as such. There are plenty of MOD Day Z servers that disable third person. There will probably be so eventually with the standalone servers, get over it.
(0005577)
GhostSniper189 (reporter)
2013-12-22 13:45
edited on: 2013-12-22 13:46

This isn't just a bug reporting site. It's for feature requests too... LOL

But 3RD Person shouldn't be turned off, Private hive servers will have an option to have it disabled or enabled I think when they come out

(0005719)
harkonian (reporter)
2013-12-22 18:55
edited on: 2013-12-22 18:57

As has always been the case, if players are given an easier game option, many will invariably choose it over one that may be a _better_ game option. Server operators in turn will generally cater to the lowest common denominator, resulting in very few -- or no active --1st person servers.

Dslyecxi sums it up best in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=v7zoVIsIT2A [^]

A good compromise might be to have 1st person only on official servers and allow private hive operators to do what they want.

(0005720)
spunkballa (reporter)
2013-12-22 19:10

Man this a BUG REPORT FORUM, Not a bitch about a game feature you don't like forum. Wow...
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nhdkiller (reporter)
2013-12-22 23:26

I see all these people on here bickering about third person and why it is needed and not.
Here's my opinion.
instead of taking it out, why not change it? why not make it an over the should third person view, to where yes, you can still see your character, but unable to see around corners and walls.
instead of the camera being 2 meters from your character, make it a foot or two away, that way those who want to play in third person can do so, yet not have an advantage over those who play in first.
simply change it to balance out with first person.
if people wanna destroy the immersive factor of the game, let them, but make it to where doing so doesnt give them an advantage. Which is exactly what third person does, gives them a greater advantage.

Just an opinion/idea.
(0005843)
Jaybopper (reporter)
2013-12-23 00:18

To those who say "This is not a bug, I'm down-voting" all I have to say is stop white-knighting Rocket. They will not go on a date with you for being an asshole, seriously go smell your own farts somewhere else.
(0005887)
harkonian (reporter)
2013-12-23 02:31

Attention: Everyone please take a moment to read the first word of the URL in your browser -- "feedback". This is the appropriate place to submit both bugs and feedback.

I've been nothing but respectful of other people's opinion and would appreciate it if you do this same.
(0006018)
krissipo (reporter)
2013-12-23 11:20

I do not agree, I like having some overview, it compensates for the lack of senses we dont have in the game, like vibration, very low sounds and such, it lets you be more content
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gray (reporter)
2013-12-23 12:56

3rd person should be removed, it's not realistic and detracts from the immersive nature of the game.
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SystemFailure (reporter)
2013-12-23 13:35

3d Person shouldn't be removed, just set up correctly, so you can't see over obstacles, which you can't see in 1st Person mode.
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Zhoukov (ticket author)
2013-12-23 13:48

That's the whole point, look OVER obstacles.. you can't do that IRL. So we should't be able to do it in game either. Also nowadays you're forced to play 3rd person since otherwise you would have a really big disadvantage versus other players. Therefor we need 1st person only servers.
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SystemFailure (reporter)
2013-12-23 13:53

false, IRL you can look over obstacles exposing let's say 5% of your Body to the enemy. here you can't do that. why don't you demand this with the same logic and arguments you provided? IRL you can also use every Kind of reflections even being totally hidden behind the said obstacle. so your Argument is invalid.

it's the same issue while driving a vehicle in dayz mod. you can't use mirrors and its very unrealistic. so better tweak 3d Person mode with some restrictions than turning it completely off.
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damomurtagh (reporter)
2013-12-23 17:55

I play the game in 3rd person for a number of reasons. None of which are about unfair advantage versus other players. In fact I haven't killed one person in the standalone, and in the mod I only killed in self-defence.

Since vision is our only sense (I find sound non-directional and filled with irrelevant ambient noises) I simply don't have a decent perspective of what is going on around me. I use 3rd person to give me more awareness.

In such a huge map, with such detail, things get a little clunky. I find moving in 3rd person means less getting caught on door frames etc.

I like the aesthetic of seeing my character wearing all the gear I worked so hard to scavenge.

My computer renders 3rd person better than first person (the same with Arma 3).

As far as realism goes, it's a game about ZOMBIES for God's sake! We're running around an island where there are more weapon modifications than there are can openers; houses contain more hospital grade medical equipment than utensil; and I can run for kilometres where a motorcycle helmet without either breaking my neck or overheating.

I'm sure all of that can be rationalised away through some fiction, so why not just pretend that a side effect of the zombie virus is a mutation that allows people to see around corners.

I promise not to force you to play in 3rd person, just don't make me play in 1st person.
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nhdkiller (reporter)
2013-12-23 20:45

As i said, dont take third person out, just balance it with 1st, so you cant see around corners, over walls, ect..
for those saying that it doesn't give an advantage, you are wrong, countless times iv won firefights simply because i could see around a corner without exposing myself.
maybe they should add a mirror or something using the (picture in picture) that arma 3 uses.
or like i said in an earlier post, just move the camera closer in third person.

It's an advantage over those using first person, either fix it, or make 1st person only servers.
(0006341)
DJPorterNZ (reporter)
2013-12-23 20:56

1st/3rd is a player choice. I use both depending on circumstance. 1st person inside buildings and 3rd out in the big wild. By all means, restrict away on your own server as you want. But then, I don't PvP.
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Sidu (reporter)
2013-12-23 21:04

so go play first person servers only that will be on tommorow... god...
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RuwnDecay (reporter)
2013-12-24 01:05

Make it so that when you are getting shot at (combat mode) you'd be forced to enter 1st person, and stay there for 5-10 minutes.
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DJPorterNZ (reporter)
2013-12-24 01:54

@RuwnDecay
How would you even begin to code for that?
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VerocityViper (reporter)
2013-12-24 02:01

You don't, it's a stupid idea
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Mr Stagger lee (reporter)
2013-12-24 14:02

I dont mind 1st or 3rd person views but i like the 3rd person to look about while chilling n eating n stuff also for lookinb behind me as all i see in 1st is an Axe n backpack :(
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Blaerah (reporter)
2013-12-25 03:01

Just needs "veteran" servers. 1st person + no crosshair = bliss
(0007147)
no_more (reporter)
2013-12-26 15:22
edited on: 2013-12-26 15:23

I've got the compromise for you guys. What if the 3rd person view will be not available only while you in combat?

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JimmyJazz (reporter)
2013-12-26 15:24

Agreed; need veteran option, good old veteran!
(0007198)
im_orange (reporter)
2013-12-26 19:28

@no_more That's stupid, if somebody camps on a roof and waits until he can get a shot on you you will be dead by the time combat mode kicks in.
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kurozael (reporter)
2013-12-26 20:46

Only idiot streamers and bandits want the 3rd person view. Real men want first person only.
(0007228)
FinKone (reporter)
2013-12-26 21:48

Men = first person
Women = 3rd person.

Everyone knows this.

Being able to gain battle field data without sticking your neck out is a joke. Its annoying. I use 3rd because I refuse to let someone get the advantage on me. I wish I didn't have to.

While this in the wrong place... (its a opinion, not a bug), to many people would cry about 3rd being gone.

Lower the camera orbit point at least....
(0007301)
VerocityViper (reporter)
2013-12-27 02:04
edited on: 2013-12-27 02:08

I Don't think 3rd person necessarily has to be removed to satisfy a certain portion of people but other methods can be used to nurf people from exploiting it's offset from the character giving a greater view than 1st person.

This is how I would address this, tell me what you think.

1. When Player's Character approaches obstacle/object from 1.2 metres breaking vision either cause 3rd person camera to be locked above character or Lower the 3rd person Camera height and distance stopping player rotating to an exploitative extent.

2. The harsher method is to lock the players ability to rotate camera independently around, and is fixed directly behind character, panning with players' direction changes. (3rd Person Only)

(0007304)
SoWeMeetAgain (reporter)
2013-12-27 02:19

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/159064-suggestion-item-periscope/ [^]
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TITAN (reporter)
2013-12-27 05:10

I like 3rd person but would not be mad if this game was first person, however they need to raise the camera on first person mode as you cannot see the tops of certain shelves so you can't get to items that are up there sometimes.
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Struisvogel (reporter)
2013-12-27 15:40

I disagree so much, its hard to tell in words. But basicly the game needs to playable instead of wanting to be too real imo..
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Jaybopper (reporter)
2013-12-27 21:47

Tis the first of many battles between fun and realism!

Me two cents:

1)Saying that 3rd person has an advantage over 1st person is true but it is a moot point since everyone has access to the 3rd person view. If I could only use 1st person and you had access to both 1st and 3rd then it is relevant to say that you have an advantage over me. This is not the case though so there really isn't an issue along these lines.

2)I don't think anyone disagrees that 1st person trumps 3rd person for realism. Some will argue that 3rd person gives the player a realistic 180 degree view but in my opinion this is more than cancelled out by the very unrealistic ability to see around corners and over walls. *I think this is inherent of a 3rd person view and no amount of tweaking the view will effectively remedy it! You will only end up making it redundant* Besides, the alt key offers you 180+ degrees.

Personally I don't see the point of the 3rd person view except to make the game more fun and for me the fun comes from the realism so yeah if I was making the game I would can it altogether.

I think at the end of the day this is a conundrum for Rocket and it's just a question of whether they want to sacrifice fun for realism or vice versa. I've given my vote :)
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AndyTheBandie (reporter)
2013-12-27 23:11

I can't play in first person. I just can't. I've tried. I have so much difficulty navigating through buildings and around obstacles without being able to actually see what my character is doing. Sure it gives an unrealistic advantage to those who use it, but the fact is that EVERYONE has the option of using it, so the advantage is not unfair. What I think they should do is make hardcore servers that force first person like in the mod. That way people who like third person like me can continue using it on veteran servers while people like you can play hardcore servers. Everyone wins! Just keep in mind that this game is still in alpha development, so try not to get too carried away with your demands.
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delset (reporter)
2013-12-29 05:26

I enjoy viewing my player in third person during long walks on the beach. First person only, should be a hardcore/server setting.
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JimmyJazz (reporter)
2013-12-29 06:56

what about more close up third person? so you are not able to look around edges
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Bettyblack (reporter)
2013-12-30 18:37

Luckily this is a game, not real life and i always try to play in 3d person in ALL games. It's a feature, not a bug.
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BluntOwnage (reporter)
2013-12-30 20:38

Must be a DayZ noob who made this thread - DAYZ always leaves this up to the servers. Different servers for different people. PVP, PVE, Role Playing, 1st person, 3rd person, both, whatever. It will be added as a server option soon, its already been reported.

Don't waste the feedback teams time with these sort of posts.
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uniflare (reporter)
2013-12-31 22:22

This should be an entirely seperate option. This should not be bundled as default with "veteran" difficulties or such, this should be given a parameter similar to the crosshairs flag and let the server owners decide if they want a first person shooter or third person with or without other flags like crosshairs map markers or w/e.

Once they finalize the server browser with noticeable flag icons for different server options this should be easy to choose a server for the best experience.
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Warren Peace (reporter)
2014-01-06 20:05

I agree, that's why I'm still hoping for 1st person only servers. Let the nubs have their unfair advantage in their own servers.
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christobat (reporter)
2014-01-07 03:08

You can choose, so keep your choice.
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Zhoukov (ticket author)
2014-01-07 14:56

I realise that there are First Person only servers now. I´m very happy that these came up, i´m not sure if it was because I put up this thread. But atleast they are there now. So let´s enjoy them, or not. Your choice.
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deewd22 (reporter)
2014-01-07 18:47
edited on: 2014-01-07 18:47

If the devs could reduce or delete the "shaking" while moving in 1st person I would be a 1st person only player, but like it is at the moment I cant play longer then half an hour in 1st person(Same was with Arma 2 for me). I´m getting sick of the motion while moving around.(Like reading while you are inside of a driving car).
 
I don´t like 3rd person because it does not feel real and gives some real unfair advantages like described many times in this thread. But I have no other choice if I want to play properly for longer then half an hour

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LiPeK (reporter)
2014-01-08 00:17
edited on: 2014-01-08 00:18

deewd22: turn a headbob slider to minimum in the game settings.

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MrAmos123 (reporter)
2014-01-11 19:06

Real life you see 180 Degrees. (20/20) It's impossible to recreate 180 Degrees in a game without increasing the FOV, which if you did, the game looks weird.
So, having 3rd person replaces your 75/90 Degrees you see in-game.

Yes it's a little over-powered, you can see over walls, but still..

It's got more advantages than disadvantages.
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Mikey1EE7 (reporter)
2014-01-12 20:14

Thats why we are given the choice to play only in first person on some servers. It might cater towards some people to not have 3PP, but that doesn't mean they have to preach it.
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Belbo (reporter)
2014-01-18 16:33

I'm highly in favor of removing 3rd person-view. Not because it's a question of realism or not, but because it deprives players from an immerse experience, in my opinion.
Yes, I know that fps's aren't giving you the same sensations as the real world does. Yes, I know that the 1st person-movement is kind of chunky right now.
But the 1st person in DayZ (and Arma-games in general) is a limitation that adds indefinitely to the experience. I'd like to compare it to shortage of resources in other games: Imagine a strategy game where the developers tend to give you all resources right from the start. Yes, you could play it and yes, it may even be funny for some time. But by limiting your resources, they offer you a possibility to struggle, to overbear. And that is the experience that should be made.

DayZ is game about struggle, about being immersed into a massive game world. 3rd person is the opposite of that.

I think a general regulation for official servers to be 1st person-only, with some exceptions, would offer players a great deal more enjoyment, if they'd be willing to take the risk and move out of their comfort zone.
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aristizabal95 (reporter)
2014-01-18 17:22

I think the same, and the best solution is what you say about hardcore servers, that way people that enjoy forcing everyone a first person view and knowing it¡'s a fair game for everyone will enter those servers, others just go to another server! I think it's great
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Cooperal (reporter)
2014-01-18 17:52

I'm all for realism. However this game is going to the masses and there are plenty of less hardcore players who will simply stop playing if they can't have the crutches that they've grown accustomed to.

Furthermore their is an abundance of servers that disable third person which removes your disadvantage. I never have a problem finding a large choice to choose from.

Third-person is an important thing to some players, and a bunch of Let's Players who helped the community expand.

Finally the suggestions section is probably more suitable for posts like this which are not bugs and are completely intended. However one of the best possible middle-grounds have already been met.
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sheLLHD (reporter)
2014-01-18 23:01

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CLOSE IT. 3PP:OFF Server exist now...

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vectoron (reporter)
2014-01-20 16:40

This is not an issue because it is server specific.
(0042173)
WhiteZero (reporter)
2014-01-20 19:05

I suppose you'd also like the game to somehow block 3rd party VOIP programs like TeamSpeak as well because it's unfair?
(0042176)
jimmyleith (reporter)
2014-01-20 20:58

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CLOSE IT. 3PP:OFF Server exist now...

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osb (reporter)
2014-02-06 15:06

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CLOSE IT. 3PP:OFF Server exists now...
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(0044717)
ArmedMonkey0 (reporter)
2014-02-08 03:26

In real life you have much better sense of awareness you know how close walls are behind you you can peek around corners third person is the easiest way to do this. Its not like you can shoot at people without peeking out a little bit.
(0044785)
Nurrvillian (reporter)
2014-02-08 13:38

They already have Hardcore servers now that are First Person only and as was said just above if that's the way you want to play it they would have to Block 3rd party VOIP because that adds an un=realistic aspect to the game
(0044791)
amberhelios (moderator)
2014-02-08 13:57

Not a bug

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2013-12-17 13:05 Zhoukov New Issue
2013-12-17 13:06 Rossums Resolution open => no bug
2013-12-18 10:04 Nightingale Note Added: 0001647
2013-12-18 10:08 Andyb11 Note Added: 0001651
2013-12-18 11:40 Zhoukov Note Added: 0001786
2013-12-18 21:38 Foxhunt Note Added: 0002534
2013-12-18 21:42 Rabbit Note Added: 0002538
2013-12-18 21:43 Rabbit Note Edited: 0002538 View Revisions
2013-12-18 21:44 Rabbit Note Edited: 0002538 View Revisions
2013-12-19 00:31 xinthian Note Added: 0002724
2013-12-19 00:39 im_orange Note Added: 0002734
2013-12-19 00:40 Toasted Duckie Note Added: 0002737
2013-12-19 06:22 DeadlyDanDaMan Note Added: 0002952
2013-12-19 06:59 harkonian Note Added: 0002970
2013-12-19 07:08 Kepper Note Added: 0002972
2013-12-19 09:03 Zhoukov Note Added: 0003014
2013-12-19 09:12 Musk Note Added: 0003017
2013-12-19 09:14 Guyver1 Note Added: 0003019
2013-12-19 09:23 kalips Note Added: 0003025
2013-12-19 09:28 Musk Note Added: 0003030
2013-12-19 09:41 OzyALPHA Note Added: 0003036
2013-12-19 09:42 Sheo Note Added: 0003037
2013-12-19 09:44 b00st_er Note Added: 0003038
2013-12-19 09:48 Musk Note Added: 0003040
2013-12-19 10:25 TheUltraViolence Note Added: 0003062
2013-12-19 11:14 Zhoukov Note Added: 0003098
2013-12-19 11:24 Zhoukov Summary Third person gives unfair advantage => Third person gives unfair advantage / decreases experience of the game
2013-12-19 11:24 Zhoukov Additional Information Updated View Revisions
2013-12-19 11:39 AGBenny12 Note Added: 0003118
2013-12-19 11:42 xinthian Note Added: 0003121
2013-12-20 04:24 animation303 Note Added: 0003915
2013-12-20 07:24 Spencer Note Added: 0003987
2013-12-20 19:12 VerocityViper Note Added: 0004490
2013-12-22 09:20 Rusk Note Added: 0005464
2013-12-22 09:21 Rusk Note Edited: 0005464 View Revisions
2013-12-22 09:29 Molkerei Note Added: 0005467
2013-12-22 10:28 McGuyver Note Added: 0005481
2013-12-22 13:45 GhostSniper189 Note Added: 0005577
2013-12-22 13:46 GhostSniper189 Note Edited: 0005577 View Revisions
2013-12-22 18:55 harkonian Note Added: 0005719
2013-12-22 18:57 harkonian Note Edited: 0005719 View Revisions
2013-12-22 19:10 spunkballa Note Added: 0005720
2013-12-22 23:26 nhdkiller Note Added: 0005816
2013-12-23 00:18 Jaybopper Note Added: 0005843
2013-12-23 02:31 harkonian Note Added: 0005887
2013-12-23 11:20 krissipo Note Added: 0006018
2013-12-23 12:56 gray Note Added: 0006082
2013-12-23 13:35 SystemFailure Note Added: 0006097
2013-12-23 13:48 Zhoukov Note Added: 0006112
2013-12-23 13:53 SystemFailure Note Added: 0006118
2013-12-23 17:55 damomurtagh Note Added: 0006236
2013-12-23 20:45 nhdkiller Note Added: 0006336
2013-12-23 20:56 DJPorterNZ Note Added: 0006341
2013-12-23 21:04 Sidu Note Added: 0006348
2013-12-24 01:05 RuwnDecay Note Added: 0006459
2013-12-24 01:54 DJPorterNZ Note Added: 0006477
2013-12-24 02:01 VerocityViper Note Added: 0006482
2013-12-24 14:02 Mr Stagger lee Note Added: 0006624
2013-12-25 03:01 Blaerah Note Added: 0006795
2013-12-26 15:22 no_more Note Added: 0007147
2013-12-26 15:23 no_more Note Edited: 0007147 View Revisions
2013-12-26 15:24 JimmyJazz Note Added: 0007149
2013-12-26 19:28 im_orange Note Added: 0007198
2013-12-26 20:46 kurozael Note Added: 0007206
2013-12-26 21:48 FinKone Note Added: 0007228
2013-12-27 02:04 VerocityViper Note Added: 0007301
2013-12-27 02:05 VerocityViper Note Edited: 0007301 View Revisions
2013-12-27 02:08 VerocityViper Note Edited: 0007301 View Revisions
2013-12-27 02:19 SoWeMeetAgain Note Added: 0007304
2013-12-27 05:10 TITAN Note Added: 0007340
2013-12-27 15:40 Struisvogel Note Added: 0007419
2013-12-27 21:47 Jaybopper Note Added: 0007499
2013-12-27 23:11 AndyTheBandie Note Added: 0007523
2013-12-29 05:26 delset Note Added: 0007787
2013-12-29 06:56 JimmyJazz Note Added: 0007797
2013-12-30 18:37 Bettyblack Note Added: 0008269
2013-12-30 20:38 BluntOwnage Note Added: 0008306
2013-12-31 22:22 uniflare Note Added: 0008589
2014-01-05 23:14 guest Note Added: 0010381
2014-01-05 23:25 MylesMDT Note Added: 0010384
2014-01-05 23:31 MylesMDT Note Deleted: 0010384
2014-01-06 00:20 Sidhvaethordir Tag Attached: Camera
2014-01-06 20:05 Warren Peace Note Added: 0010922
2014-01-07 03:08 christobat Note Added: 0011314
2014-01-07 14:35 guest Note Added: 0011968
2014-01-07 14:56 Zhoukov Note Added: 0011981
2014-01-07 14:59 Zhoukov Description Updated View Revisions
2014-01-07 18:47 deewd22 Note Added: 0012107
2014-01-07 18:47 deewd22 Note Edited: 0012107 View Revisions
2014-01-08 00:17 LiPeK Note Added: 0012270
2014-01-08 00:18 LiPeK Note Edited: 0012270 View Revisions
2014-01-11 19:06 MrAmos123 Note Added: 0026084
2014-01-12 20:14 Mikey1EE7 Note Added: 0037053
2014-01-13 03:22 guest Note Added: 0039598
2014-01-18 16:33 Belbo Note Added: 0041963
2014-01-18 17:22 aristizabal95 Note Added: 0041964
2014-01-18 17:52 Cooperal Note Added: 0041969
2014-01-18 23:01 sheLLHD Note Added: 0041995
2014-01-20 16:40 vectoron Note Added: 0042166
2014-01-20 19:05 WhiteZero Note Added: 0042173
2014-01-20 20:58 jimmyleith Note Added: 0042176
2014-02-06 15:06 osb Note Added: 0044419
2014-02-08 03:26 ArmedMonkey0 Note Added: 0044717
2014-02-08 13:38 Nurrvillian Note Added: 0044785
2014-02-08 13:57 amberhelios Note Added: 0044791
2014-02-08 13:57 amberhelios Status new => closed


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